[Yanel-usage] uploading to a web server, how ?

Sun Jan 12 17:44:53 CET 2014

Den 2014-01-10 21:01, skrev Michael Wechner:
> Am 10.01.14 00:14, schrieb bard at grapefilm.com:
> 
>> Thanks Michael again for your feedback!
>> 
>> push and pull via git sounds ideal or what would snowden say to that
>> :-) I mean the git just seems to access my computer directly ?
> 
>  not if you use something like github. In the case of github it means,
> that when you push, the changes will go to github,
>  which means somebody else (for example us) can pull it from there. If
> you make your content open source, then github will be for free, if
> not, then it would be starting at USD 7 per month
> 
>  https://github.com/pricing [1]

so it's free when the build is transparent on github yes
and the private repositories are there for those who want to protect 
their code ?

When you say content you mean the build I guess,
For me usually it's the media files I want to publish
Would I push those sometimes big files too via git (except when I just 
link to vimeo/youtube) ?

> 
>> What do you charge for hosting ?
> 
>  we are not a hosting company ourselves, but depending on what your
> requirements (space, etc.) are we would either "add" your realm to our
> own Yanel instance, which would probably be around USD 5-10 per month
> or if you need more space and power, rent a dedicated virtiual server
> at linode for USD 20, which would be owned by yourself completely
> 
>  https://www.linode.com/ [2]
> 
>  Hence in total (github and Tomcat/Virtual Server) it would be around
> USD 12 to USD 27 per month
> 
>> My current apache 2.2-- gives me 5 gig at a very reasonable rate.
> 
>  how much do you currently pay?

60 euros a year inc vat
> 
>> I am looking towards the possibility to run live videostreams in the
>> future - is tomcat right for that ?
> 
>  it depends what exactly you mean with videostreams? You mean kind of
> youtube, vimeo? Or that while your record people can watch?

like a live transmission
> 
>> Does the linode technology mean that the site wil be mirrored on
>> several servers around the world ?
>  Kind of, because the servers are virtual, I guess these are mirrored
> on the backend somehow, but I don't think linode gives a guarantee.
> But if you keep the content inside github, then you will have it
> mirrored anyway, because it will be on at least three physical
> locations:
> 
>  - Your laptop
>  - github
>  - hosting provider (e.g. linode)
> 
>  I think this will make it quite safe ;-)
> 
Safety seems to be an important part of what you do building Yanel!

What is next step if I want to go ahead and use your web server via git?

cheers from the arctic !

Bard

>  Best regards
> 
>  Michael
> 
>> Thanks !
>> 
>> Bard
>> 
>> ------------------------------------------
>> From: "Michael Wechner" <michael.wechner at wyona.com>
>> To: yanel-usage at wyona.com
>> Date: Jan 8, 2014 9:15:13 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Yanel-usage] uploading to a web server, how ?
>> 
>> Hi B�rd
>> 
>> It depends a bit what your hosting provider allows you to do or
>> rather
>> what you are allowed to do on your web server.
>> 
>> Normally one would install Apache Tomcat on the webserver. For
>> example
>> we are using linode.com where we can do whatever we want.
>> 
>> Or choose a hosting provider which is providing Apache Tomcat out of
>> the
>> box. (search for "hosting Apache Tomcat")
>> 
>> Once you have setup an environment with Apache Tomcat, then you can
>> deploy your Yanel webapp inside Apache Tomcat
>> and point your domain/DNS to this server.
>> 
>> Another possibility is to run Yanel locally and every time you make
>> content changes, dump your Yanel based website as static html pages
>> and
>> copy these static pages via FTP or scp to your web-server which is
>> running a regular webserber, for example Apache httpd.
>> 
>> Another possibility is that you pay a "small" fee and we will setup
>> a
>> git repository for you (or that you setup one yourself at github)
>> and
>> also provide the hosting environment on one of our servers (shared
>> linode), which would mean the following workflow:
>> 
>> - You run Yanel locally on your laptop based on a git repository and
>> can
>> do all changes yourself (even offline)
>> - Every time you make a change, you commit and push via git
>> - We will receive a notification and will pull your new content via
>> git
>> onto our webserver
>> - Voila your website will be up to date to the public
>> 
>> This would give you greatest flexibility and full control
>> 
>> HTH
>> 
>> Michael
>> 
>> Am 08.01.14 17:53, schrieb B�rd Grape:
>> 
>>> How do I upload yanel to a web server?
>>> I just briefly created some html pages within yanel and would like
>>> to
>>> know the steps after this. The files are still within the provided
>>> file tree of the demo - but how do I create my own file-tree - and
>>> get
>>> the thing up and running on my web server ? sorry for my non tech
>>> questioning :-)
>>> 
>>> bard
> 
> 
> 
> Links:
> ------
> [1] https://github.com/pricing
> [2] https://www.linode.com/

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