Myfaces is an impl of the JSF spec, I like it very much and is for sure the successor of JSP (and not Jelly).<div><br></div><div>But I don't feel yet whether JSF could fit with Yanel, because JSF already does the URL-to-Component mapping itself (which Yanel does too). So here is a bit of a conflict. But let's see, I'll have to analyze it further.</div>
<div><br></div><div>If JSF would work with Yanel, that would be the best case in my opinion.</div><div>You could leverage plenty of ui-widgets (similar to jQuery widgets) from</div><div>- ICEfaces</div><div>- myFaces</div>
<div>- ADFFaces</div><div>etc.</div><div><br></div><div>Sidenote: most JSF widgets also use jQuery internally, so there is no drawback with regards to user friendliness.</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers</div><div>Balz</div>
<div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 11:34 AM, Michael Wechner <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:michael.wechner@wyona.com">michael.wechner@wyona.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
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On 3/28/11 9:57 AM, Balz Schreier wrote:
<blockquote type="cite">I am still thinking about alternatives, but did not
find a concrete alternative, I'll let you know when something gets
concrete (like my JAXB suggestion some weeks ago).
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<div>The most important points of a UI framework for me are:</div>
<div>- Tool support (Eclipse, Netbeans) -> You see while typing
whether the code is grammatically correct or not, auto-complete,
etc.</div>
<div>- Usually you need property values in the Front-End from your
backend-components (e.g. a Yanel Resource). Using them should be
as easy as a Java property in a Java class (realtime binding to
a property in a java class)</div>
<div><br>
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<div>My personal favorite is Facelets, but I don't know yet
whether that can co-exist with Yanel:</div>
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I guess one could re-use libraries of<br>
<br>
<a href="http://myfaces.apache.org/" target="_blank">http://myfaces.apache.org/</a><br>
<br>
but I am not sure if this is really an alternative to Jelly, but
rather to JSP.<br>
<br>
Cheers<br><font color="#888888">
<br>
Michael</font><div><div></div><div class="h5"><br>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div>- Facelet has become a standard (It is part of JSF 2.0, but
also runs without JSF)</div>
<div>- It has a very elegant binding of UI-parameters with your
Java class in the backend.</div>
<div>- Tool support has become commodity already</div>
<div>- If you Google for it, make sure you google for Facelets in
JSF2, the old Facelets was not yet there...</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Example in german: <a href="http://blog.namics.com/2010/07/neu-in-jsf2-1.html" target="_blank">http://blog.namics.com/2010/07/neu-in-jsf2-1.html</a></div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Cheers</div>
<div>Balz<br>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 9:28 AM,
Michael Wechner <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:michael.wechner@wyona.com" target="_blank">michael.wechner@wyona.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> Maybe we should
starting thinking about an alternative or at least
considering options ...<br>
<br>
Cheers<br>
<br>
Michael<br>
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<pre>Csaba,
jelly is not in active development.
I am still scheduling to address at least the dangling issues but I have never been able to find the right time.
If you look at issues you'll see that contributions could still be made in a way that is easier to apply than what is available.
The tutorial is a bit small.
Examples of features can be also found:
- in questions of this mailing list
- in unit-tests
The latter, in particular, has an example for each tag.
paul
Le 27 mars 2011 à 15:30, Csaba Győrffy a écrit :
> Hello There,
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> I was wondering if Jelly's development is completely abandoned or
> someone is still working on it. Beside the official page, the
> tutorials found on them, are there other (maybe more complex)
> documentations related to Jelly anywhere?
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> Many thanks:
> Csaba
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