[Yanel-dev] Fwd: Re: [Jelly] Is development still in progress

[Balz Schreier]

Myfaces is an impl of the JSF spec, I like it very much and is for sure the
successor of JSP (and not Jelly).

But I don't feel yet whether JSF could fit with Yanel, because JSF already
does the URL-to-Component mapping itself (which Yanel does too). So here is
a bit of a conflict. But let's see, I'll have to analyze it further.

If JSF would work with Yanel, that would be the best case in my opinion.
You could leverage plenty of ui-widgets (similar to jQuery widgets) from
- ICEfaces
- myFaces
- ADFFaces
etc.

Sidenote: most JSF widgets also use jQuery internally, so there is no
drawback with regards to user friendliness.

Cheers
Balz

On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 11:34 AM, Michael Wechner <michael.wechner at wyona.com
> wrote:

>  On 3/28/11 9:57 AM, Balz Schreier wrote:
>
> I am still thinking about alternatives, but did not find a concrete
> alternative, I'll let you know when something gets concrete (like my JAXB
> suggestion some weeks ago).
>
>  The most important points of a UI framework for me are:
> - Tool support (Eclipse, Netbeans) -> You see while typing whether the code
> is grammatically correct or not, auto-complete, etc.
> - Usually you need property values in the Front-End from your
> backend-components (e.g. a Yanel Resource). Using them should be as easy as
> a Java property in a Java class (realtime binding to a property in a java
> class)
>
>  My personal favorite is Facelets, but I don't know yet whether that can
> co-exist with Yanel:
>
>
> I guess one could re-use libraries of
>
> http://myfaces.apache.org/
>
> but I am not sure if this is really an alternative to Jelly, but rather to
> JSP.
>
> Cheers
>
> Michael
>
>  - Facelet has become a standard (It is part of JSF 2.0, but also runs
> without JSF)
> - It has a very elegant binding of UI-parameters with your Java class in
> the backend.
> - Tool support has become commodity already
> - If you Google for it, make sure you google for Facelets in JSF2, the old
> Facelets was not yet there...
>
>  Example in german: http://blog.namics.com/2010/07/neu-in-jsf2-1.html
>
>  Cheers
> Balz
>
> On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 9:28 AM, Michael Wechner <
> michael.wechner at wyona.com> wrote:
>
>>  Maybe we should starting thinking about an alternative or at least
>> considering options ...
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Michael
>>
>> -------- Original Message --------  Subject: Re: [Jelly] Is development
>> still in progress  Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 16:17:45 +0200  From: Paul
>> Libbrecht <paul at hoplahup.net> <paul at hoplahup.net>  Reply-To: Commons
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>> Csaba,
>>
>> jelly is not in active development.
>> I am still scheduling to address at least the dangling issues but I have never been able to find the right time.
>> If you look at issues you'll see that contributions could still be made in a way that is easier to apply than what is available.
>>
>> The tutorial is a bit small.
>> Examples of features can be also found:
>>
>> - in questions of this mailing list
>> - in unit-tests
>> The latter, in particular, has an example for each tag.
>>
>> paul
>>
>>
>> Le 27 mars 2011 à 15:30, Csaba Győrffy a écrit :
>>
>> > Hello There,
>> >
>> > I was wondering if Jelly's development is completely abandoned or
>> > someone is still working on it. Beside the official page, the
>> > tutorials found on them, are there other (maybe more complex)
>> > documentations related to Jelly anywhere?
>> >
>> > Many thanks:
>> > Csaba
>> >
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