[Yanel-dev] Fwd: Re: [Jelly] Is development still in progress

Michael Wechner michael.wechner at wyona.com
Mon Mar 28 11:34:59 CEST 2011


On 3/28/11 9:57 AM, Balz Schreier wrote:
> I am still thinking about alternatives, but did not find a concrete 
> alternative, I'll let you know when something gets concrete (like my 
> JAXB suggestion some weeks ago).
>
> The most important points of a UI framework for me are:
> - Tool support (Eclipse, Netbeans) -> You see while typing whether the 
> code is grammatically correct or not, auto-complete, etc.
> - Usually you need property values in the Front-End from your 
> backend-components (e.g. a Yanel Resource). Using them should be as 
> easy as a Java property in a Java class (realtime binding to a 
> property in a java class)
>
> My personal favorite is Facelets, but I don't know yet whether that 
> can co-exist with Yanel:

I guess one could re-use libraries of

http://myfaces.apache.org/

but I am not sure if this is really an alternative to Jelly, but rather 
to JSP.

Cheers

Michael
> - Facelet has become a standard (It is part of JSF 2.0, but also runs 
> without JSF)
> - It has a very elegant binding of UI-parameters with your Java class 
> in the backend.
> - Tool support has become commodity already
> - If you Google for it, make sure you google for Facelets in JSF2, the 
> old Facelets was not yet there...
>
> Example in german: http://blog.namics.com/2010/07/neu-in-jsf2-1.html
>
> Cheers
> Balz
>
> On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 9:28 AM, Michael Wechner 
> <michael.wechner at wyona.com <mailto:michael.wechner at wyona.com>> wrote:
>
>     Maybe we should starting thinking about an alternative or at least
>     considering options ...
>
>     Cheers
>
>     Michael
>
>     -------- Original Message --------
>     Subject: 	Re: [Jelly] Is development still in progress
>     Date: 	Sun, 27 Mar 2011 16:17:45 +0200
>     From: 	Paul Libbrecht <paul at hoplahup.net> <mailto:paul at hoplahup.net>
>     Reply-To: 	Commons Users List <user at commons.apache.org>
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>     To: 	Commons Users List <user at commons.apache.org>
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>
>
>
>     Csaba,
>
>     jelly is not in active development.
>     I am still scheduling to address at least the dangling issues but I have never been able to find the right time.
>     If you look at issues you'll see that contributions could still be made in a way that is easier to apply than what is available.
>
>     The tutorial is a bit small.
>     Examples of features can be also found:
>
>     - in questions of this mailing list
>     - in unit-tests
>     The latter, in particular, has an example for each tag.
>
>     paul
>
>
>     Le 27 mars 2011 à 15:30, Csaba Győrffy a écrit :
>
>     >  Hello There,
>     >
>     >  I was wondering if Jelly's development is completely abandoned or
>     >  someone is still working on it. Beside the official page, the
>     >  tutorials found on them, are there other (maybe more complex)
>     >  documentations related to Jelly anywhere?
>     >
>     >  Many thanks:
>     >  Csaba
>     >
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