[Yanel-dev] [Bug 7055] [wanted1.0+] offer at least 2 layouts for from-scratch realms

[Prabodh Upreti]

Hi Guillaume =

=A0
Comments below make sense.=A0 I will make the changes. thx.

--- On Fri, 6/26/09, Guillaume D=E9flache <guillaume.deflache at wyona.com> wr=
ote:


From: Guillaume D=E9flache <guillaume.deflache at wyona.com>
Subject: Re: [Yanel-dev] [Bug 7055] [wanted1.0+] offer at least 2 layouts f=
or from-scratch realms
To: yanel-development at wyona.com
Date: Friday, June 26, 2009, 2:18 AM


Hi!

Prabodh Upreti a =E9crit :
> [...]
>=A0 >>As a second design I would suggest for simplicity/expendiency as non=
e of us are
>=A0 >>UI designers that we just borrow Yulup's here: http://www.yulup.org/
>=A0 I looked at the following page under yulup:=A0 http://demo.yulup.org/ =
.=A0 There are some simple straight forward pages under that link.=A0 I hop=
e that is the sample you are talking about here.=A0 That is great if it is =


I thought specifically of http://www.yulup.org/ where this bluish rounded-c=
orners menu lies.

> ok to just grab one from there. My only question is if layout 1 has navig=
ation, muti-language support etc, do you think we need to have something si=
milar to that for layout 2.

Personally I think this design is nice because if has an horizontal navigat=
ion instead of a vertical one, which emphazizes can the layout is not set i=
n stone.
So IMHO we should have navigation for both designs, and mabe also multi-lan=
guage support if this is not too much additional work (if this leads to muc=
h duplication please don't bother but tell us about it) as we would already=
 have all the content for the 1st layout anyway.


> For my part, I started tweaking around with the CSS and the XSL file. Bas=
ically change background color, change font and move some items around.=A0 =
Problem is, it is not radically different from layout 1.=A0 My plan was to =
have a horizontal dhtml navigation but that is taking some time. =


Sure, that's why I suggested Yulup's layout. Maybe we should replicate the =
menu bar in subpages (unlike Yulup), at least hiding the selected section. =
But again don't put too much time on it.


> Please advice me the best route to take here and I will do that.

See above.


>=A0 >>For caching issues we should just make sure that both sets of images=
/CSS are
>=A0 >>accessed thru different URLs and all should be fine I guess.
> The only problem here is we are expecting http://localhost:8080/yanel/fro=
m-scratch-realm/en/index.html=A0 to server layout 1 and 2 based on the earl=
ier session setting.=A0 If browser caching is turned on link http://localho=
st:8080/yanel/from-scratch-realm/en/index.html=A0 may not properly reflect =
the earlier requeset i.e. http://localhost:8080/yanel/from-scratch-realm/en=
/index.html?xslt-version=3D1=A0 .
>=A0 Here I was just planning to not cache this content by adding <META HTT=
P-EQUIV=3D"PRAGMA" CONTENT=3D"NO-CACHE" /> to the xsl.

That's okay. That should probably be Yanel's job to calculate the final doc=
ument's Last-Modified/ETag given the generation process resources', which I=
 suppose we do not do correctly/at all ATM. Maybe add a XXX here if you can=
 make sure who should do the correct thing/what it should be.


> On a different note, do you think I should be sending this kind of inform=
ation via email or just adding it to bugzilla.=A0 This will help me in the =
future.

Generally speaking I'd say everything that could lead to discussions is bet=
ter done thru E-mail, but both are fine if you cross-reference the thread w=
ith the bug.
For example design discussions should definitely be done on the mailing-lis=
t but non-far-reaching implementation issues are OK on the bug.
And for bugs that are defects and not features, well everything that brings=
 us nearer to fixing it (as opposed to wishes and proposals of redesign/ref=
actoring/any kind of reconsideration) should go in the bug.

Cheers,
=A0=A0=A0Guillaume
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