[Yanel-dev] Re: Rant re Yanel installement

[Guillaume Déflache]

Michael Wechner schrieb:
>> That's what I understood, too (he even says in the article this is why
>> he dislikes Java), but the JAVA_HOME thing caught me the other day as
>> well. It's something one only does once in a while, when moving to a new
>> OS or computer, or upgrading Java, and it is easy to forget that you
>> have to do it manually. As he said, it would be helpful if when one
>> installed a Java package that it actually did all that was necessary to
>> actually use that package (this applies to at least the Ubuntu and
>> Windows Java installs); it's a really basic usability issue IMO.
>>   
>
> currently the build scripts are pointing this out and I don't know how 
> to further improve this.
> Any suggestions are very welcome ;-)

Once you found the `java` command, $JAVA_HOME always the parent 
directory, right? (Not sure for JREs...)
Then we seem to have the same problem while looking for Maven, and there 
are already a few hints here: 
http://bugzilla.wyona.com/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=5330#c8 (that 
bug looks like it might be fixed (not sure though) and another one 
reopened about these PATH issues in general).
Also 
http://www.google.com/search?q=windows+%22which+command%22+equivalent 
may help.


>> Should we contact him and ask whether he completed the move to Yanel,
>> and if not a) is there anything we could do to help, if he is still
>> interested, and (maybe more importantly for us) b) what stopped him
>> doing so?
>>   
>
> sure, whereas I think he was really interested in Yulup/Atom/Neutron 
> and not in Yanel itself.
> But please ask him, because I am sure we can learn something in order 
> to improve

Having fixed one of the quirks (even if small) he mentioned before 
contacting him again would be even better! ;)


> at some point the dependencies need to get resolved, so I do so only 
> two possible improvements
>
> 1) Displaying a note such that people are aware of it (a progress 
> report, saying for example "25 of 78 dependencies resolved", but I am 
> not sure if this is possible)
>
> 2) Reduce the amount of initial dependencies

3) Ship a local Maven repo with only the required dependancies in the 
binary distribution.