[Yanel-dev] Associate language versions

[Josias Thöny]

Michael Wechner wrote:
> Josias Thöny wrote:
> 
>> Michael Wechner wrote:
>>
>>> Josias Thöny wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> In order to build a navigation framework, we need a way to associate 
>>>> the different language versions of a page. I.e. for each language 
>>>> version of a page we need to know how to get the other language 
>>>> versions.
>>>>
>>>> There seem to be the following three possibilities:
>>>>
>>>> 1. Links to language versions in meta data of each language version
>>>> e.g. meta data of search.html points to suche.html and vice versa 
>>>> (use uuids).
>>>> Problems:
>>>> - knowledge duplication
>>>> - when adding/removing a language version, the meta of all other 
>>>> versions has to be updated
>>>> - meta data not implemented yet
>>>>
>>>> 2. Common meta data with links to each language version
>>>> meta data refers to a common "language-cluster" meta data, which 
>>>> refers to all language versions.
>>>> Problems:
>>>> - extra meta file needed
>>>> - meta data not implemented yet
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> could we use this for something else? I mean is there any other data 
>>> being shared by all languages?
>>
>>
>> I guess there could be other meta data common to all language versions.
>> E.g. "visibility in navigation"
> 
> 
> I guess that won't be necessary if we have a separation between "repo 
> nav" and "realm nav"

yes, it was maybe not the best example...

> 
>> or "confidentiality".
> 
> 
> what do you mean with "confidentiality"?

I meant that a company could mark some documents as "confidential", just 
for informational purpose.
This would probably always apply to all language versions.

> 
>>
>> Do you have any idea how and when this common meta file would be 
>> created? And how it could be accessed in the API?
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> 3. Sitetree
>>>> the sitetree refers to the different language versions of a node.
>>>> Problems:
>>>> - maybe language versions should be orthogonal to sitetree
>>>> - sitetree not really integrated yet (new pages are not 
>>>> automatically added to sitetree)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Please note that the "realm navigation" (not the realm navigation) 
>>> does not have to contain all pages and hence I think cannot be used.
>>
>>
>> Did you mean "not the *repo* navigation" ?
> 
> 
> yes, sorry for  that :-)
> 
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> WDYT?
>>>>
>>>> I don't know which option would be the best one. To me the lenya 
>>>> approach (tight coupling of language versions, encoding the language 
>>>> in the url) seems to be much easier to handle...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> true, but not what our "users" want ;-) hence I think we either need 
>>> to implement (1) or (2).
>>> I recently had another presentation and people were asking 
>>> explicitely for decoupling language from the URL.
>>>
>>> I know it's a challenge, but isn't that great :-) (I know I sound 
>>> like one of the british officers in "River Kwai" ;-)
>>
>>
>> haven't seen that movie...
> 
> 
> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0050212/
> 
> and see the quotes:
> 
> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0050212/quotes

Thanks for the links.

josias

> 
> Cheers
> 
> Michael
> 
>>
>> josias
>>
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> Michael
>>>
>>>>
>>>> josias
>>>>
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