[Osr-101] Re: Neutron Sitetree response
Michael Wechner
michael.wechner at wyona.com
Thu Jul 12 17:56:43 CEST 2007
Thomas Comiotto wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Since we discussed the topic yesterday at the hackatlon - I'll
> crosspost to this list.
>
>
> On Jul 12, 2007, at 12:39 AM, Michael Wechner wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> As Joern has pointed out during the hackathon today the spec for the
>> Neutron Sitetree response was missing.
>>
>> I have added an example
>>
>> http://neutron.wyona.org/draft-neutron-protocol-v0.html#rfc.section. 5.2
>
>
>
> [Neutron specs]
>
> <introspection xmlns="http://www.wyona.org/neutron/1.0">
> <navigation>
> <sitetree href="sitetree.xml" method="GET"/>
> <--
> <sitetree href="/" method="PROPFIND"/>
> -->
> </navigation>
> </introspection>
>
>
> IIRC Neutron does not require the server to support webDAV. Therefore
> the GET method in the above example.
right, that's the reasoning
>
> That's a good thing. This way people can do the I/O and sitetree
> stuff with http servers that lack webDAV support simply by using
> introspection files, GET/PUT or scripted POST'S. They even can use
> different transport protocols for doing it - we once agreed that
> Neutron should not depend on any given transport protocol, did we?
you mean like HTTP?
>
>
> But why adopt webDAV vocabulary and send a response that (when used
> over http) implies that you deal with a webDAV server when in fact
> you don't?
well, we didn't want to reinvent the wheel for something which seems to
be ok.
Need to run ;-) but will answer your other questions later on and also
will add an amendement to discuss your sitetree proposal.
Cheers
Michael
>
> Also, is the Neutron variant of a webDAV multipart response bound to
> the URI namespace rules the webDAV spec does enforce?
>
> Another question is if webDAV lingo is sufficient for what neutron
> clients might want to provide users with. Suppose a client wants to
> provide users with a tree view on a Lenya publication like the Lenya
> site tab does: i.e. tabs for switching between different language
> versions of a site where missing items are replaced by grayed out
> placeholders pointing to a default language version. Can you give an
> example of how this could be done in a nice way by using webDAV
> vocabulary only - or possibly enriched webDAV?
>
>
> Here's what we use at UZH in our 1.2 publication to spit out sitetree
> data. It's rdf that uses the following custom tags:
>
> - map:navigation A navigational structure
> - map:node A navigation node
> - map:childNodes Child nodes
> - map:resources Resources bound to a node (e.g. documents in
> various langauges document)
>
> It seems to work for us but has very much room for improvement of
> course!
>
> Best Regards
> Thomas
>
>
>
> ============
>
> <RDF>
> <Description dc:name="Unitemplate Sitemap" map:defaultLanguage="de"
> map:root="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/" about="http://
> localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/site.rdf"/>
> <map:resource dc:language="de" dc:name="UniTemplate" about="http://
> localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/index.html"/>
> <map:resource dc:language="en" dc:name="UniTemplate" about="http://
> localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/index_en.html"/>
> <map:resource dc:language="de" dc:name="Allgemeine Dokumenttypen"
> about="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/xhtml.html"/>
> <map:resource dc:language="de" dc:name="1 Spalte" about="http://
> localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/xhtml/1column.html"/>
> <map:resource dc:language="de" dc:name="2 Spalten" about="http://
> localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/xhtml/2columns.html"/>
> <map:resource dc:language="de" dc:name="3 Spalten" about="http://
> localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/xhtml/3columns.html"/>
> <map:resource dc:language="de" dc:name="Strukt. Dokumenttypen"
> about="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/custom.html"/>
> <map:resource dc:language="de" dc:name="News" about="http://localhost:
> 8888/unitemplate/authoring/custom/News.html"/>
> <map:resource dc:language="de" dc:name="Lang" about="http://localhost:
> 8888/unitemplate/authoring/custom/News/EintragLang.html"/>
> <map:resource dc:language="de" dc:name="Kurz" about="http://localhost:
> 8888/unitemplate/authoring/custom/News/Kurz.html"/>
> <map:resource dc:language="de" dc:name="Team" about="http://localhost:
> 8888/unitemplate/authoring/custom/Team.html"/>
> <map:resource dc:language="de" dc:name="Gret Muster" about="http://
> localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/custom/Team/Muster.html"/>
> <map:resource dc:language="de" dc:name="Impressum" about="http://
> localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/impressum.html"/>
> <map:resource dc:language="de" dc:name="Kontakt" about="http://
> localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/contact.html"/>
> <map:resource dc:language="en" dc:name="Contact" about="http://
> localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/contact_en.html"/>
> <map:resource dc:language="de" dc:name="Sitemap" about="http://
> localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/sitemap.html"/>
> <map:resource dc:language="en" dc:name="Sitemap" about="http://
> localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/sitemap_en.html"/>
> <map:resource dc:language="de" dc:name="Suche" about="http://
> localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/search.html"/>
> <map:resource dc:language="de" dc:name="Redirect" about="http://
> localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/redirect.html"/>
> <map:resource dc:language="de" dc:name="test" about="http://localhost:
> 8888/unitemplate/authoring/test.html"/>
> −
> <map:node dc:name="index"
> about="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/ authoring/index">
> −
> <map:resources>
> −
> <Bag>
> <li resource="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/index.html"/>
> <li resource="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/
> index_en.html"/>
> </Bag>
> </map:resources>
> </map:node>
> −
> <map:node dc:name="xhtml"
> about="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/ authoring/xhtml">
> −
> <map:resources>
> −
> <Bag>
> <li resource="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/xhtml.html"/>
> </Bag>
> </map:resources>
> −
> <map:childNodes>
> −
> <Seq>
> <li rdf:resource="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/xhtml/
> 1column"/>
> <li rdf:resource="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/xhtml/
> 2columns"/>
> <li rdf:resource="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/xhtml/
> 3columns"/>
> </Seq>
> </map:childNodes>
> </map:node>
> −
> <map:node dc:name="1column"
> about="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/ authoring/xhtml/1column">
> −
> <map:resources>
> −
> <Bag>
> <li resource="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/xhtml/
> 1column.html"/>
> </Bag>
> </map:resources>
> </map:node>
> −
> <map:node dc:name="2columns" about="http://localhost:8888/
> unitemplate/authoring/xhtml/2columns">
> −
> <map:resources>
> −
> <Bag>
> <li resource="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/xhtml/
> 2columns.html"/>
> </Bag>
> </map:resources>
> </map:node>
> −
> <map:node dc:name="3columns" about="http://localhost:8888/
> unitemplate/authoring/xhtml/3columns">
> −
> <map:resources>
> −
> <Bag>
> <li resource="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/xhtml/
> 3columns.html"/>
> </Bag>
> </map:resources>
> </map:node>
> −
> <map:node dc:name="custom"
> about="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/ authoring/custom">
> −
> <map:resources>
> −
> <Bag>
> <li resource="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/custom.html"/>
> </Bag>
> </map:resources>
> −
> <map:childNodes>
> −
> <Seq>
> <li rdf:resource="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/custom/
> News"/>
> <li rdf:resource="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/custom/
> Team"/>
> </Seq>
> </map:childNodes>
> </map:node>
> −
> <map:node dc:name="News" about="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/
> authoring/custom/News">
> −
> <map:resources>
> −
> <Bag>
> <li resource="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/custom/
> News.html"/>
> </Bag>
> </map:resources>
> −
> <map:childNodes>
> −
> <Seq>
> <li rdf:resource="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/custom/
> News/EintragLang"/>
> <li rdf:resource="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/custom/
> News/Kurz"/>
> </Seq>
> </map:childNodes>
> </map:node>
> −
> <map:node dc:name="EintragLang" about="http://localhost:8888/
> unitemplate/authoring/custom/News/EintragLang">
> −
> <map:resources>
> −
> <Bag>
> <li resource="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/custom/News/
> EintragLang.html"/>
> </Bag>
> </map:resources>
> </map:node>
> −
> <map:node dc:name="Kurz" about="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/
> authoring/custom/News/Kurz">
> −
> <map:resources>
> −
> <Bag>
> <li resource="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/custom/News/
> Kurz.html"/>
> </Bag>
> </map:resources>
> </map:node>
> −
> <map:node dc:name="Team" about="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/
> authoring/custom/Team">
> −
> <map:resources>
> −
> <Bag>
> <li resource="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/custom/
> Team.html"/>
> </Bag>
> </map:resources>
> −
> <map:childNodes>
> −
> <Seq>
> <li rdf:resource="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/custom/
> Team/Muster"/>
> </Seq>
> </map:childNodes>
> </map:node>
> −
> <map:node dc:name="Muster"
> about="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/ authoring/custom/Team/Muster">
> −
> <map:resources>
> −
> <Bag>
> <li resource="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/custom/Team/
> Muster.html"/>
> </Bag>
> </map:resources>
> </map:node>
> −
> <map:node dc:name="impressum" about="http://localhost:8888/
> unitemplate/authoring/impressum">
> −
> <map:resources>
> −
> <Bag>
> <li resource="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/
> impressum.html"/>
> </Bag>
> </map:resources>
> </map:node>
> −
> <map:node dc:name="contact"
> about="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/ authoring/contact">
> −
> <map:resources>
> −
> <Bag>
> <li resource="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/
> contact.html"/>
> <li resource="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/
> contact_en.html"/>
> </Bag>
> </map:resources>
> </map:node>
> −
> <map:node dc:name="sitemap"
> about="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/ authoring/sitemap">
> −
> <map:resources>
> −
> <Bag>
> <li resource="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/
> sitemap.html"/>
> <li resource="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/
> sitemap_en.html"/>
> </Bag>
> </map:resources>
> </map:node>
> −
> <map:node dc:name="search"
> about="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/ authoring/search">
> −
> <map:resources>
> −
> <Bag>
> <li resource="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/search.html"/>
> </Bag>
> </map:resources>
> </map:node>
> −
> <map:node dc:name="redirect" about="http://localhost:8888/
> unitemplate/authoring/redirect">
> −
> <map:resources>
> −
> <Bag>
> <li resource="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/
> redirect.html"/>
> </Bag>
> </map:resources>
> </map:node>
> −
> <map:node dc:name="test" about="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/
> authoring/test">
> −
> <map:resources>
> −
> <Bag>
> <li resource="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/test.html"/>
> </Bag>
> </map:resources>
> </map:node>
> −
> <map:navigation about="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/">
> −
> <map:childNodes>
> −
> <Seq>
> <li rdf:resource="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/index"/>
> <li rdf:resource="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/xhtml"/>
> <li rdf:resource="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/custom"/>
> <li rdf:resource="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/
> impressum"/>
> <li rdf:resource="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/contact"/>
> <li rdf:resource="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/sitemap"/>
> <li rdf:resource="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/search"/>
> <li rdf:resource="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/
> redirect"/>
> <li rdf:resource="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/test"/>
> </Seq>
> </map:childNodes>
> </map:navigation>
> </RDF>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
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Michael Wechner
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